I feel that I am really close to figuring something out... but I am not. So... I will post all my random notes that I took while reading about asceticism and trying to have an epiphany yesterday. Maybe you the readers can help me out. Or maybe seeing it like this can help me out. Or maybe it is a lost cause and I only think I am about to have a life changing thought. As such you may not want to read this post.
This is how the notes are on my paper currently...
Words mean but do not mean
(We are but we are not)
Lives mean but do not mean
Can't understand self No meaning? Conquered = pain conquered self
freedom from (death) vs. control over (life) body Pleasure = bad Pain = good Living instead of thinking about living
Does God have pain or pleasure? Through Jesus. Simplicity Sacred = freedom from (God) and control over (Jesus) and controlling things hear how to gain freedom from through God through Holy Spirit
If meaning to life-- if meaning to Christianity-- self-control/free will
Death = lack of pain = lack of pleasure = lack of control = freedom from
Jesus seclusion -- self -- self-contol
To live = to have control for a while
Ghosts = control over death? Masochism??
Desirability of life = desirability of pain = controlling things = humans
Desirability of avoiding pleasure some desirable pleasures food, sex, power, comfort, acceptance some desirable pains exhaustion, athleticism, challenge, obstacle
pain = sign of bodily harm? pleasure does not = more bodily help than bodily harm pain does not = more bodily harm than bodily help
why desire anything? instinct individualist vs. wholist good body health = more life control only over the mind? pain = neutral pleasure = neutral life = neutral
if we didnt die what could we accomplish argument
Could we control death? eventuality = choice of death or not
in Christianity gain that control by relinquishing that control
to have control is to be human? to want control?
Universe of things in control or controlled
Control = desirable not being controlled = not desirable
before life??? death = lack of control Masochism = control over pain
Letting go of desire for control is letting go of desire to live
"Let go and let God" free will = control control over mind = control
Pain = mini-death orgasm = mini-death
The primitive beginnings of the universe having rather being controlled
Resistance to authority authority reinforced Heaven = pleasure you have no control over and Hell = pain you have no control over Satan resists authority we resist authority
control over after life-- replay of life-- the question of time
To devote self to either is to only have control over one or the other -- control over self Pain & Pleasure... chose your poison
humans desire pain, death, pleasure, desire, life, control over everything
Humans want to be God... made in God's image... gain freedom from become like God gain control over become like Jesus... must do both... part of control over is freedom from
Letting go of control giving it to God is beginning of neutral is beginning of death
At war with God or idea of ultimate authority I want ultimate authority
Systematically try to take control of everything while having freedom from it
we might never reach ultimate control because we die unless afte we die we live again
if we dont learn to be like God and have freedom from and control over we will never have control over or freedom from death
we live again because we learned that control over death the power to chose pain or pleasure or neither
Cannot chose bodily reactions but can mold mental reactions... Christian belief that therefore bodies are not desirable... untrue... bodies are the first things we practice control over and freedom from
God says those who struggle for control will lose it and those who relinquish control will gain it... must have freedom from before you can have control over?
But also must go through Christ who has control over. So must give control to Christ who has control over who relinquishes control over to God who has freedom from who gives us freedom from from where we can control over.
Yeah. I'm getting closer. Thanks